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Defense One Radio

Sep 12, 2020

This episode, we'll explore emerging trends in unmanned systems. We’ll start in the air, before turning to the land and sea in a review of Russian-made systems and military thinking. And we’ll end with a discussion about trust and artificial intelligence. (Music by Bob Bradley, Paul Clarvis, Thomas Balmforth; Guy Farley, Andrew Carroll; Richard Lacy; Paul Mottram; Jeff Meegan, David Tobin, Rob Kelly; Theo Travis, Paul Ressel; Sue Verran, Paul Ressel; and David Kelly — via

  • Part One: The aerial events in Arizona, Colorado and Mexico (at the 3:41 mark);
  • Part Two: From Russia, by land and sea (24:10);
  • Part Three: Beyond AlphaDogfight (33:48).

Find a transcript of this episode here.


  • Arthur Holland Michel, associate researcher at the UN Institute for Disarmament Research in Geneva, where he researches autonomous systems and artificial intelligence. 
  • Brett Velicovich, U.S. Army veteran and author of the book “Drone Warrior.” 
  • Samuel Bendett, analyst with the Center for Naval Analyses' International Affairs Group.

Read more about the Arizona drone incident from Sept. 2019 at The Drive, here.

This episode is underwritten by Aerovironment.