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Defense One Radio

Feb 8, 2019

This week on the program, we’re going to explore the U.S.-China relationship beginning with tensions in and around the South China Sea. It's broken up into three parts: 1. How did all this begin? (at the 2:58 mark) 2. What's in it for Beijing? (11:16) 3. Where to go and what to know from here (24:28) Our guests include Samantha Hoffman of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute; Elsa Kania of the Center for a New American Security; Greg Poling of the Center for Strategic and International Studies; Andrew Wilson of the U.S. Naval War College (not speaking on behalf of the Navy or the Defense Department); and Pamela Crossley of Dartmouth University. Special thanks as well to Paulina Glass, Katie Bo Williams and Marcus Weisgerber. • Related reading: "Destined for War: Can America and China Escape Thucydides's Trap?" by Graham Allison. ( and "China Goes to Sea," a 2009 collection of essays from the Naval Institute Press (